Comments on: More Weight

By: TheAsterisk!

TheAsterisk! — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:02:06 +0000

Far too often, rabid fans of large stories, Halo included, make silly mistakes when analyzing the events of canon, assuming that all is known and revealed and that no deception has occurred. Thankfully, there’s so much lying and misrepresentation in Halo’s storyline that most fans know well enough not to take dialogue at face value, but still many fans seem to think the narration is omniscient.
Several times now, this site has pleased me with much more careful observation, and the commentary in this article (or whatever else it can be called) concerning apparent plot holes in Halo Wars are no exception.

If the cinematics are as good as claimed, I might have to endure through the game (I’m simply not a fan of the genre) once to see them.

Anyway, thanks for yet another fine read.

By: Jack

Jack — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:36:22 +0000

Haha,well I don’t know if anyone else noticed, but Harvest seems to have way more than just a northern and southern pole ocean in the opening cutscene. I don’t know why such a small knitpick bothers me so much but oh well, so much for Harvest being composed of mostly land and not water…

By: the13loodwake

the13loodwake — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 05:45:18 +0000

As to the shields for Spartans, they could be confiscated jackal-shields, which ONI had ordered for every military personel to capture any and all Covenant-based technology whenever they came across it. Granted that shields weren’t fully developed for the MJOLNIR suit till Covenant forces were located on the outskirts of Reach’s system. The UNSC had been collecting the shield technology for almost two decades, which gave them ample time to recreate and improve the technology…hince why in Halo Wars the Spartan shields last only a short while compared to the shields when your on the Pillar of Autumn.
And as for Anders wearing clothing in cryo…they could have just been imaginitive about where the camera was at…you really don’t need a full frontal to get the point she’s naked.
And as for the shield world might be an older version. Highly doubtful considering it was created at the same time as the others, since the Array had to be up as fast as possible. I think that it is merely a fallen shield world. Not all of the Forerunner stuff was impregnable. Hell if you look at the array rings on the level of Halo 3 “The Covenant” you notice that some of the Ring worlds are tinged look drastically changed. Thus leading to the assumption that the Flood found the rings and learned where some of the shields were at.
And Forge doesnt come off as being completely badass. It’s completely impossible for a marine to really expect to when a fistfight with an Elite of any class. Considering that Master Chief himself had trouble brawling with Elites in melee formats. Plus the size of the Elites give them that much more of an advantage that it would seem almost impossible for a Marine to take down an Elite especially the Arbiter.

By: Dragrath

Dragrath — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:06:04 +0000

in regards to the sheild world being diffrent than onyx I have been thinking maybe its an older sheid world & after that design failed they might have had to update their design to include sipspace protection
at least thats my hypothisis

By: Sovieron

Sovieron — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 06:11:42 +0000

@ 44

Yeah, I enjoyed the action cutscene with the final fight against the Arbiter, but I thought Spartans should have been involved with his death. To me, Forge wasn’t *so* badass that he could take an Arbiter down. (And to be clear, he was definitely going to get his ass kicked the first time if the lady hadn’t been there.)

If they really wanted Forge to give the death blow, I’d have settled for a Spartan distracting or shooting the Arbiter and Forge taking advantage of that.

By: Jebel Krong

Jebel Krong — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:48:00 +0000

Comment by EldritchWarlord
An unrelated thing has occurred to me: “What if the infection defiles the relic?” The “infection” is most likely the Flood and it seems that the Elite is concerned that opening the relic will allow the Flood to contaminate it.

But that makes no sense, there were no Flood on Harvest. Perhaps the Elite was really voicing his concern about Flood being in the relic.

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I thought he was talking about humans as the “infection” not the flood.

as far as the flood being on the shield world, there is no mention of the hierarch seeing them, let alone setting foot on the outside surface (and they aren’t on the inside) – so were, presumably, assumed to be native fauna at the time.

By: Gierling

Gierling — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:23:18 +0000

Well some of these are false dilemmas, as far as the elites using needlers it could be as simple as needlers being preferred in the relic as there was less of a chance of inadvertently damaging it. Even if Regret ultimately decided to blow it that was a surprise to the Arbiter (and certainly everyone else), ergo it is safe to assume that the elites did their operational planning with some degree of caution toward the relic and issued needlers.

As far as the infection comment, its pretty clear that the covenant views humanity as a disease he could be referring to the humans stepping foot in the relic.

The final note is that your missing some dialogue in relation to the Arcadia plot, the Covenant seems to have been aware of it’s location independent of the relic on Harvest.

Indeed there is a line of dialogue indicating that “The relic led them to the same world as it led us” or something to that effect while the arbiter and the prophet are talking that prefaces the Anders kidnapping plot.

So the Relic doesn’t lead the Covenent to the Shield World, it leads them to Anders, she is what moves the plot forward on that account. (That she could casually determine in 30 seconds the same conclusion that the covenant likely plumbed). So the Arcadia thing is a side trip.

Although I have the feeling that several of the missions were probably changed after the cutscenes were finalized, as some seem to be very mildly incongruent in away that makes it look like the mission dialogue is rationalizing them.

All in all I enjoyed the game and feel it added immeasurably to the Halo Universe. Although I have the sneaking suspicion that they went to the effort to segregate 3 other Spartans to justify an all Spartan 4 player co op feature in Halo 4, that right now is just a cynical mistrust towards MS manifesting itself.

By: they got leader

they got leader — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:19:18 +0000

yea i dont like how the elites wher portrayed in halo wars at all. also did it piss off anyone else that forge killed the arbiter! the arbiter could have died in a much cooler way than being shanked with a butter knife by a johnsen wanna-be.

By: Subtank

Subtank — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:19:05 +0000

[...]And did anyone notice that none of them were using projectile weapons in the cutscenes except for needlers?[...] – Comment by Wildcard1992.

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I noticed it too. If you look throughout the entire cutscenes, you should also notice that the Elites never used Plasma Rifles.

Based on my observation and knowledge regarding the Covenant Weaponry, Needlers are seen as a frail weapon in terms of firepower but superior in homing on a target. Plasma Rifles, as seen in all Halo novels and trilogy, are the Elites’ best friend. Maybe they got too lazy on pointing directly at the enemy?

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