Comments on: A look at the Halo Array… http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/ Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:29:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Vulcan http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/comment-page-1/#comment-6407 Vulcan Fri, 04 Jun 2010 03:41:30 +0000 http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/#comment-6407 Also, as far as the Heretic Flood Installation in Halo 2 goes, it is in fact on Threshold. The cutscene shows the Phantoms flying past a piece of Halo-04 on the way to the planet. It actually looked like a different ring the first time I played this part, but the visual difference between the destruction of Halo at the end of Halo: CE (the pieces had jagged edges)and the Halo piece in Halo 2 (with the burnt edges that were exactly perpendicular to the ring-or in other words FLAT)is actually due to a higher processing power and graphics renderer when they made the game. Bungie's tech got better, so Halo-04 looked different. Also, as far as the Heretic Flood Installation in Halo 2 goes, it is in fact on Threshold. The cutscene shows the Phantoms flying past a piece of Halo-04 on the way to the planet. It actually looked like a different ring the first time I played this part, but the visual difference between the destruction of Halo at the end of Halo: CE (the pieces had jagged edges)and the Halo piece in Halo 2 (with the burnt edges that were exactly perpendicular to the ring-or in other words FLAT)is actually due to a higher processing power and graphics renderer when they made the game. Bungie’s tech got better, so Halo-04 looked different.

]]> By: Vulcan http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/comment-page-1/#comment-6406 Vulcan Fri, 04 Jun 2010 03:28:05 +0000 http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/#comment-6406 Why is it that the outermost ring on each ring symbol is broken in a different place or sometimes not at all? It has to mean something. Why is it that the outermost ring on each ring symbol is broken in a different place or sometimes not at all? It has to mean something.

]]> By: john117 http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/comment-page-1/#comment-6144 john117 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:56:31 +0000 http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/#comment-6144 ^No. Just..no. No, no. Have you even seen the Art of Halo 3 section of pages showing a Halo being made? The likely hood of Installations cycle environments is highly unlikely due to that image. It is clearly seen that the Alpha Halos Environment being made on it, and its environment STAYED THE SAME. Same goes for Installation 05, and the rest of them for that matter. The environments on each of the 7 Halos were intentionally made that way, staying the same, never changing. ^No. Just..no. No, no. Have you even seen the Art of Halo 3 section of pages showing a Halo being made? The likely hood of Installations cycle environments is highly unlikely due to that image. It is clearly seen that the Alpha Halos Environment being made on it, and its environment STAYED THE SAME. Same goes for Installation 05, and the rest of them for that matter. The environments on each of the 7 Halos were intentionally made that way, staying the same, never changing.

]]> By: AThoth http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/comment-page-1/#comment-6046 AThoth Wed, 20 May 2009 05:53:38 +0000 http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/#comment-6046 Perhaps the rings deliberately cycle environments. They don't just stay the way they were built but constantly change. This would make sense from a scientific experimental standpoint. Not only does each ring have multiple flood testing zones for a variety of environments but those environments cycle every few thousand years so that each ring is doing its own isolated experimentation without changing the variables in other ones on other rings. And all of that data could be sent to the Ark as the librarian had a record, as stated in the terminals, and compiled and gleaned for useful info. Perhaps the rings deliberately cycle environments. They don’t just stay the way they were built but constantly change. This would make sense from a scientific experimental standpoint. Not only does each ring have multiple flood testing zones for a variety of environments but those environments cycle every few thousand years so that each ring is doing its own isolated experimentation without changing the variables in other ones on other rings. And all of that data could be sent to the Ark as the librarian had a record, as stated in the terminals, and compiled and gleaned for useful info.

]]> By: Robert Allen http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/comment-page-1/#comment-6028 Robert Allen Fri, 15 May 2009 05:34:13 +0000 http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/#comment-6028 I think the that the halos represent different elements of nature: Ice, Water, Forest, Desert, Fire, Air, and Dirt. There are 7 Halos, probably about 5-8 shield worlds, and the ark (basicly, a halo factory) I think the that the halos represent different elements of nature: Ice, Water, Forest, Desert, Fire, Air, and Dirt. There are 7 Halos, probably about 5-8 shield worlds, and the ark (basicly, a halo factory)

]]> By: Dragrath http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/comment-page-1/#comment-5928 Dragrath Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:08:32 +0000 http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/#comment-5928 after reading as much data on the flood as I could (yes I am a big fan of the flood) its seems to be clear the flood are extragalactic in origin and show an incredibly manipulative genetic structure allowing there super cells to create new forms to allow the to conquer any environment and situation. The forerunners were clearly aware of this fact & most likely conducted flood research to see if they could find a weakness in the flood or useful information to stop them because the flood could return to the galaxy at any time if the forerunners eliminated them. This makes it likely the rings environments were created for flood experiments not protection of sentient life (that's what shield worlds were for). After all it makes sense for the forerunners to try & prepare against any arriving stage 4 flood forces. after reading as much data on the flood as I could (yes I am a big fan of the flood) its seems to be clear the flood are extragalactic in origin and show an incredibly manipulative genetic structure allowing there super cells to create new forms to allow the to conquer any environment and situation. The forerunners were clearly aware of this fact & most likely conducted flood research to see if they could find a weakness in the flood or useful information to stop them because the flood could return to the galaxy at any time if the forerunners eliminated them. This makes it likely the rings environments were created for flood experiments not protection of sentient life (that’s what shield worlds were for). After all it makes sense for the forerunners to try & prepare against any arriving stage 4 flood forces.

]]> By: Pizzajon http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/comment-page-1/#comment-5847 Pizzajon Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:05:19 +0000 http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/#comment-5847 Warning this pst may contain spoilers for some, it is also very long and extensve trying to take into account al afore arguements. Will you walk the path to enlightenment or slump back to the shadows of your ignorance? There some great theories on here and unsurprisingly some agreable and others not. The flood appears to be some sort of multicellular parasitic life form that if u read the books is not constrained to the infection of hosts by those shown in the halo games(borrowing into the chest and assuming bodily control). It is clear that by infecting a host sentient species the flood gains control of its host abilities and memories. While most of the flood appear single minded they are all guided by the gravemind(s). From the Forerunner texts contained within the terminals of halo 3 it appears that the forerunners were unprepared for the intelligent assault of the flood. As seen in halo 2 there are 'research' facilities near each halo ring. Due to the equipment noted by Bradley flood infection forms were contained within tanks. It is likely that each ing was setup with a different environment to study the flood within each environment. I didn't come across many life forms in my travels around the halo games(which is to be expected after the forerunner activation) but there wasn't much evidence of their having been life before the forerunners. How the forerunners conducted their research upon the flood remains a mystery to me. In relation to the name of the humans being 'Reclaimers' and the ideas put forward on this account by Reclamers Doubt i would bring this together with the ideas of the shield worlds and the apparent wealth of forerunner tech hidden on human populated planets or atleast planets human are capable of inhabiting (e.g. Harvest, Onyx, Reach and EARTH!) i do believe the forerunners did so choose humans to take over after then as they saw something within our species thatwould make us very capable of taking over. As you read the halo books series (if u do) u get more and more an impression that while the humans are inferiour to the covenant species in some ways, on the whole we are superior. They cam with adapted forerunner technology and we had what we had made ourselves. Despite these overwhelming odds they do not absoloutly obliterate humanity throughout the galaxy. Granted there are many factors within this but with the initiation of such things as the cole protocol and space battleship manuevers conducted by countless UNSC Captains that the covenant seemingly have few alternatives yet as evident in Ghosts of Onyx with the extended fight with the sentinals they are very adaptable and Kurt, Kelly, Fred, Will and co. struggle to stay ahead of them. One thought which has niggled at me for a while is where did the prophets religion concerning the forerunners nd the great journey begin? It is clear that they brought their belief into the covenant with their alegiance with the elites at its founding (although the elites stuck to their acient tradition) and each subsequent ajoining species adapted fit their role within the covenant and to a certain degree the religion itself. I believe that the forerunners had chosen the prophets to be thier successors and then left then when the flood war started. This lead to the creation of the research facilities and the adjacent halo rings ready to deal with an outbreak. This lead to the catagorising of all life in the galaxy, which could lead to the discovery of humans and the replacement of the prophets. This could link in with the need for human interaction to activate the halo installations as per halo with 343 Quilty Spark requiring Master Chief to activate the ring, halo 2 with Tartarus and Miranda Keyes and most recently in the halo wars storyline the need for human interaction(Anders) to activate the discovered forerunner artifact. When the forerunners left the prophets in light of the discovery of humans and the vast ages that therein began, the destiny on the prophet species could have been twisted into something divine. (like chinese whispers) That said in Contact Harvest it is clear the covenant heiraches understand the role of humans as they are recognised as reclaimers (before the events of halo: CE) and the human-covenant war ensues. In referance to the forerunner caligraphy featured in the halo universe the covenant (as u may expect) use seemingly forerunner symbols in their own technology, i am unclear myself as to whether they have their own different written languages although verbal is assured. In the book the fall of reach such geometric patterns as the ones featured next to the installation holograms above corresponded to stellar coordinates. Whether names were needd for the rings after there size differences terrain differences and different locations throughout the galaxy is unlikely as all forerunners involved would know the differences. I hope anyone who has read thi will give feedback and that i havn't just killed the reams great theories and comments. If u have anything to say about my ideas then either comment here like a normal person or im on the internet. (somewhere) Warning this pst may contain spoilers for some, it is also very long and extensve trying to take into account al afore arguements. Will you walk the path to enlightenment or slump back to the shadows of your ignorance?
There some great theories on here and unsurprisingly some agreable and others not. The flood appears to be some sort of multicellular parasitic life form that if u read the books is not constrained to the infection of hosts by those shown in the halo games(borrowing into the chest and assuming bodily control). It is clear that by infecting a host sentient species the flood gains control of its host abilities and memories. While most of the flood appear single minded they are all guided by the gravemind(s). From the Forerunner texts contained within the terminals of halo 3 it appears that the forerunners were unprepared for the intelligent assault of the flood. As seen in halo 2 there are ‘research’ facilities near each halo ring. Due to the equipment noted by Bradley flood infection forms were contained within tanks. It is likely that each ing was setup with a different environment to study the flood within each environment. I didn’t come across many life forms in my travels around the halo games(which is to be expected after the forerunner activation) but there wasn’t much evidence of their having been life before the forerunners. How the forerunners conducted their research upon the flood remains a mystery to me. In relation to the name of the humans being ‘Reclaimers’ and the ideas put forward on this account by Reclamers Doubt i would bring this together with the ideas of the shield worlds and the apparent wealth of forerunner tech hidden on human populated planets or atleast planets human are capable of inhabiting (e.g. Harvest, Onyx, Reach and EARTH!) i do believe the forerunners did so choose humans to take over after then as they saw something within our species thatwould make us very capable of taking over. As you read the halo books series (if u do) u get more and more an impression that while the humans are inferiour to the covenant species in some ways, on the whole we are superior. They cam with adapted forerunner technology and we had what we had made ourselves. Despite these overwhelming odds they do not absoloutly obliterate humanity throughout the galaxy. Granted there are many factors within this but with the initiation of such things as the cole protocol and space battleship manuevers conducted by countless UNSC Captains that the covenant seemingly have few alternatives yet as evident in Ghosts of Onyx with the extended fight with the sentinals they are very adaptable and Kurt, Kelly, Fred, Will and co. struggle to stay ahead of them.
One thought which has niggled at me for a while is where did the prophets religion concerning the forerunners nd the great journey begin? It is clear that they brought their belief into the covenant with their alegiance with the elites at its founding (although the elites stuck to their acient tradition) and each subsequent ajoining species adapted fit their role within the covenant and to a certain degree the religion itself. I believe that the forerunners had chosen the prophets to be thier successors and then left then when the flood war started. This lead to the creation of the research facilities and the adjacent halo rings ready to deal with an outbreak. This lead to the catagorising of all life in the galaxy, which could lead to the discovery of humans and the replacement of the prophets. This could link in with the need for human interaction to activate the halo installations as per halo with 343 Quilty Spark requiring Master Chief to activate the ring, halo 2 with Tartarus and Miranda Keyes and most recently in the halo wars storyline the need for human interaction(Anders) to activate the discovered forerunner artifact. When the forerunners left the prophets in light of the discovery of humans and the vast ages that therein began, the destiny on the prophet species could have been twisted into something divine. (like chinese whispers) That said in Contact Harvest it is clear the covenant heiraches understand the role of humans as they are recognised as reclaimers (before the events of halo: CE) and the human-covenant war ensues.
In referance to the forerunner caligraphy featured in the halo universe the covenant (as u may expect) use seemingly forerunner symbols in their own technology, i am unclear myself as to whether they have their own different written languages although verbal is assured. In the book the fall of reach such geometric patterns as the ones featured next to the installation holograms above corresponded to stellar coordinates. Whether names were needd for the rings after there size differences terrain differences and different locations throughout the galaxy is unlikely as all forerunners involved would know the differences.
I hope anyone who has read thi will give feedback and that i havn’t just killed the reams great theories and comments. If u have anything to say about my ideas then either comment here like a normal person or im on the internet.
(somewhere)

]]> By: WYOMING http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/comment-page-1/#comment-5782 WYOMING Sun, 08 Feb 2009 03:58:50 +0000 http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/#comment-5782 dude alex, they were made to kill all sentient life so that the flood will literally starve to death and die off. and considering the fact that only 2 were made habitable, i dont think the forerunners were planning on sentients to survive. dude alex, they were made to kill all sentient life so that the flood will literally starve to death and die off. and considering the fact that only 2 were made habitable, i dont think the forerunners were planning on sentients to survive.

]]> By: Sam http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/comment-page-1/#comment-5723 Sam Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:16:18 +0000 http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/#comment-5723 Why is it that the pictures of the rings are depicted as having one type of terrain, yet this is contradicted that they(or at least two of them- installations 04 & 05)were shown in the games to have multiple types such as jungle, forest, desert, coastal/ocean, and frozen wasteland? Why is it that the pictures of the rings are depicted as having one type of terrain, yet this is contradicted that they(or at least two of them- installations 04 & 05)were shown in the games to have multiple types such as jungle, forest, desert, coastal/ocean, and frozen wasteland?

]]> By: Ben http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/comment-page-1/#comment-3685 Ben Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:33:47 +0000 http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/2008/03/23/82/#comment-3685 Of course, the presence of non-hibernating flood, and of space-faring ships, at any one time would incline a monitor to push the panic button, just in case (much like Spark was gonna do). The frozen worlds that appear to have water are in either a state of freezing or thawing. The perfectly habitable worlds are probably enjoying a grace period. That is, for a few dozen millenia at least, the flood have lain dormant. Of course, the presence of non-hibernating flood, and of space-faring ships, at any one time would incline a monitor to push the panic button, just in case (much like Spark was gonna do).

The frozen worlds that appear to have water are in either a state of freezing or thawing. The perfectly habitable worlds are probably enjoying a grace period. That is, for a few dozen millenia at least, the flood have lain dormant.

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